Vinyl window jamb liners 101

We get many inquiries about ordering vinyl jamb liners for wood double hung windows. Trying to match exactly what you had originally can be very confusing, if not impossible. Most folks think their hardware is brand specific, which is not the case. Jamb liners in particular are very common and universal to wood double hung windows of the ’80s and ’90s. Instead of the tedious challenge of matching balances and terminal ends, we’ve taken the guesswork out of this purchase by offering a universal vinyl window jamb liner replacement kit that will work on most major brands of wood windows. Our replacement kit features a universal fit vinyl jamb liner in white or beige, a heavy duty block and tackle balance, and new sash tilt pins to fit our balance. Regardless of the brand of window, if the window has vinyl, expandable jamb liners, our kit will work. Follow these easy steps to order the kit that is right for your windows.

measure liner

1.  Determine length. Measure the jamb liner from the top to the long point at the bottom.  Save this measurement.

 

 

 

square plow

vee plow

2.  Determine track shape. All wood sashes with this design had either a square-shaped groove or a “V” shaped groove. See the diagrams for examples.

 

 

3.  Choose your color. Our kits come in white or beige.

replacement sash pins

4.  Change tilt pins. When you receive your kit, remove your old tilt pins from both the upper and lower sashes and replace them with the new pins supplied in the kit. If your windows already had a similar block and tackle balance, there is no need to change the pins.

 

 

5.  Install the jamb liners. The jamb liners are simply held in by fins that fit into a vertical groove in the wood frame of the window. Squeeze the jamb liner at one end, and work it free from the groove. Install the new one the same way.

6.  Reinstall the sashes. Set the sash tilt pins into each balance terminal and tilt back into place. Push down on the sash to release the block and tackle and the balance will engage. Done.

Complete a quote form with the information you collected in steps 1-3. We can not provide you pricing or product without this information.

 

 

80 Comments

  • Richard Walker
    Posted July 13, 2014 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    I need 4 pair vinyl jambliners 34″

  • Posted July 21, 2014 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    need to know about your block and tackle system. my existing jjamliner is spring loaded and lots of trouble!

  • Posted September 9, 2014 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Hi
    I’m looking for 4 of your jam liners 51 1/2″ on the long end, “V plough” shape, in tan color. I tried putting the dimensions on the form but there’s not really a space for jam liners. I tried to contact Quick Sash but have not gotten a response. Can you help me?
    Thank you in advance
    John

    • Posted September 9, 2014 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

      John, We’d love to help. We can’t process orders through the blog obviously, so we’ll still need to gather some information from you. I talked to the Quiksash folks and they say they sent you a quote Thursday evening at 5:17 to your email above. They will send it again today. You might check your junk folder. You can also submit your information on our form. Complete the required fields, then enter your liner specs in the comment section at the end. Thanks!

  • Aaron
    Posted September 13, 2014 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    This is awesome…they fit my 1990’s era Pozzi/Jeld-Wen windows perfectly.

  • Mark
    Posted October 12, 2014 at 4:01 am | Permalink

    A few questions:
    1. Do these jamb liner kits come with new balance cord clips (as per Anderson). I think you’re calling these balance terminals.
    2. I can’t tell if I have a square or V track. The old jamb liner looks like the square type but the sash definitely has a V cut track. Can I send a picture of my liner and sash track when I submit my quote request?
    3. Doesn’t the distance between the jamb liner tracks for the inside and outside sashes vary by manufacturer? I have Malta double hung circa 1988.
    4. What is the turn around time on these? I need 7 pairs.
    Thanks

    • Posted October 13, 2014 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

      1. This is a complete kit with all the parts you need to replace the old liners. 2. You can send pictures if you like, but it has to be one or the other. 3. With a few exceptions, compression jambliners are a universal component for all tilt windows with a 4 9/16″ jamb. The parting rails change, not the track distance. 4. 3-4 weeks. You can submit your request using a quote request form via our website, http://www.fensterusa.com, and use the comments section at the bottom to provide your specifications. Thank you.

  • Don
    Posted January 17, 2015 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Can I convert my existing double hung windows to tilt in with a replacement jamb?

    • Posted January 19, 2015 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

      Don, yes you can. If you have older wood windows with weights and stops, you can retro-fit a vinyl jambliner into the jamb pocket. However, I caution you. If you do not have window and/or carpentry experience, this is not a DIY project and not something we could walk you through. My best suggestion is to access our supplier’s catalog through our website hardware page and find the jambliner section. There is a brief tutorial there on how to retro-fit old sashes. That may be a good starting point to see if you want to pursue a project like this.

  • Posted March 5, 2015 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the information! My vinyl windows need some new jamb liners, so it’s very helpful that you posted instructions. I really liked that you posted information about the type of kit that I should get for my windows. I’ll be sure to find out about the length and determine the track shape so that I can choose the right kit to install new jamb liners.

  • Jason Whaley
    Posted April 17, 2015 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Hi. I am trying to find a supplier that makes jamb liners for 1-3/4″ double-hung sashes. Do you do this? Thanks.

  • Richard
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    I am planning to purchase a jamb liner for a Malta window. How do I remove existing? Can I just wiggle and pry it out? There is a small access hole at the top of the existing jamb liner and a small thin metal bar. Is this a key hole or release lever?

    • Posted June 15, 2015 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

      Richard, Compression jambliners are held in the jamb pocket by a flange on the edge that slips into a groove on the exterior and interior side of the jamb. There are no brackets or anything to release. You simply pry out the flange from the groove on one side and the liner will pop out.

  • Posted June 22, 2015 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    I have some older aluminum windows that are in good shape but the vinyl jam liners are cracked and very worn. The windows do not tilt in but i can remove them due to the broken jam liners. would i be able to use your product on this type of window?

    • Posted June 25, 2015 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

      Joe, Sorry, but I don’t believe so. Our jambliners are for tilt, wood windows only.

  • Herb Kleinman
    Posted July 10, 2015 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    I just received my order for replacement jam liners. I was wondering if I needed to replace both sides as only the jam liner on one side of the window is broken? Thanks.

    • Posted July 13, 2015 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

      Herb, Well I guess not. You bought the pair, but I guess you don’t have to change both sides.

  • chris stevens
    Posted October 3, 2015 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    hello. i have 20 yr old double hung wood windows (not sure the brand) with vinyl jamb liners and square track grooves. all of the measurements seem to line up with yours but when i measure the groove width on mine it appears to be closer to 1/2″. the diagram on your site seems to show something closer to 3/8″ with a slightly rounded edge. will these most likely still work? need to order quite a few. 🙂

    thanks.

    • Posted October 5, 2015 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

      Chris, Its hard to say without having my hands on it. Rarely do we here about them not working, but that’s certainly not an absolute. If you need a bunch (we’d certainly love to earn that business 🙂 ) I’d recommend getting one set to try it out and them order the rest. We have a lot of folks do that with much success.

  • Joe Crockett
    Posted October 6, 2015 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    I’m looking for 28hd jamb liner balances with the metal loop attached to the string. Also looking for the white plastic break shoe that for jamb liners

    • Posted October 12, 2015 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

      Joe, Sorry but we only sell the complete kits, not individual parts.

  • Dee
    Posted October 6, 2015 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    We are looking to retrofit one of our old double-hung windows with vinyl jamb liner. It had an aluminum liner that is now destroyed when we removed the sashes. I do not see the retrofit tutorial that you mentioned in an earlier post. Will your jamb liner work for an old window that has already been modified to fit an aluminum liner? Thanks

    • Posted October 12, 2015 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

      Dee, I would say not. Our kits are made to replace an existing vinyl jambliner only.

  • Charlie Meng
    Posted December 25, 2015 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    My current vinyl jamb liners warped badly. Do your vinyl jamb liners warp under the sun over time?

    • Posted December 28, 2015 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

      Charlie, Honestly, probably yes. Everything has a life span. Vinyl is vinyl. It warps when it gets hot. It cracks when it gets old and brittle. Should you get 10 years out of them, yes, maybe more. Can I guarantee that? Not really. Every set of circumstances is different. I’d rather be honest and lose the sale than make promises I can’t keep. If a competitor is promising you their jambliners last forever, I guess they get the sale.

  • Alfred klatt
    Posted December 27, 2015 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    I need aboud 28 sed like to putt in to my peechtree doble hong like to convert in to tilt in if possible pleace don’t mine my bath English im german

    • Posted December 28, 2015 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

      No worries Alfred. If your windows are not currently tilt-in style, that is difficult to convert. While our jambliners are “universal fit” meaning they work in most brands of tilt-in windows, that does not mean they can be used in a conversion situation. The shape of the sash track is very specific. The industry standards are a square plow or a “vee” plow both of which have specific specifications. Your existing window sashes would have to have one of these type of sash tracks or would need to be routed out to match. I’m not saying it can’t be done, it requires a very skilled woodworker to perform this procedure to which the likes of the average contractor could not handle.

  • Posted February 8, 2016 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Richard, We can help you with that! Jambliner kits are sold by the length, so you will have to determine that before you order. You can order our replacement kits online from our website, http://www.fensterusa.com. Just fill out the order form on the jambliner product page and someone from my team will contact you to confirm your order.

  • mia
    Posted February 25, 2016 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    i think i have caradco (its hard to see the name with 13.23 something, not sure) non tilting windows from the 90’s. the top keeps sliding down. i cant see any screws or lift to pull on to release the tension on the only spring attached inside the groove at the top on the right side of the window. does this description sounds familiar to anyone ? plz help. tks

    • Posted February 26, 2016 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

      Mia, The obvious issue is with the balances. Either your sash pins are not connected to the balance terminals or the springs/cords have failed. Typically we would recommend our jambliner replacement kits to solve this issue. However, I am not familiar with a non-tilt Caradco product. To my knowledge all of their double hung models in the 90’s were tilt-in models using compression jambliners. Our kits will only work on a tilt-in model. It sounds like you’ll want to get a window professional involved to figure this one out.

    • dave c
      Posted October 13, 2016 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

      Mine (old jamb liners with spring balances) do that. The problem may be (it is in my old spring balance jamb liners that Im looking for replacements for…) that the attaching point(s) which are at the bottom of the springs, which then receive the pivot pins on the sashes are loaded up with dirt and debris. When the sash is lowered, the attaching point stays down and doesnt push the sash back up. Im un-sticking some today as a matter of fact…

  • Marci
    Posted March 30, 2016 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    We installed MW replacement sash double hung painted wood windows in the 90’s. We bought the kits from Home Depot. The sashes are fine, but Some of the jambs are bowing out. Do you have jambs to replace the warped jambs?

    • Posted March 30, 2016 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

      Marci, Unfortunately I am not familiar with that product line sold through Home Depot. I don’t have any idea what MW used for those. All I could offer is to have you visit our jambliner page of our website, http://www.fensterusa.com and see if our jambliner kits will work for your windows.

  • Paul Seifert
    Posted April 13, 2016 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    I’ve got 22 double-hung Rockwell replacement windows with jamb-liners that I put in maybe 15 yrs ago. Is that a manufacturer you’re familiar with and do you think yours will work? Thanks, Paul

    • Posted April 13, 2016 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

      You bet Paul! Rockwell is one of our biggest sellers. And yes, our jambliners will work!

  • Wendy Petera
    Posted August 26, 2016 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Do your jambliners work on Kolbe windows from the 80’s?

    • Posted September 3, 2016 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

      Wendy, I really can’t say for sure. Kolbe could have had any number of models available from that period. You would have to make that determination based on the images and descriptions we have on our jambliner product page.

  • Rex Mock
    Posted September 24, 2016 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    I have double hung, tilt in windows manufactured by Craftline in Maumee Oh, now out of business. These were installed in 1969. In good shape because of added storm windows but needing new jambliners/balances. Can you help?

    • Posted September 24, 2016 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

      Rex, Unfortunately 1969 pre-dates anything we have to offer. Sorry we couldn’t help.

  • Jake
    Posted October 13, 2016 at 4:44 am | Permalink

    Have you heard of Pioneer double hung wood windows from 1980s. Getting windows reglazed because wood is in great shape but it’d be a good idea to replace vinyl jambliners. Their track grooves look rounded (similar to cord shape) but concerned about matching window edges breaking off. Not sure we can find this type…seems unique. Suggestions?

  • Matt
    Posted December 15, 2016 at 4:30 am | Permalink

    I have AndersOn (not Andersen) double hung wood sash (internal frame is metal) windows with spring loaded (the spring is visible) vinyl compression jambs that are brittle and cracked with age. Windows are stamped 1975. The jambs seem to snap in to a metal ridge that runs down the middle of the frame. Are their replacement parts (the liners/springs) for these windows?

    • Posted December 15, 2016 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

      Matt, I’m afraid that is a extinct dinosaur. I haven’t seen anything like that for many years. If you find them elsewhere, let me know, I get the occasional request for them.

  • Andy Moore
    Posted December 22, 2016 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Hi, I have Crestline double hung wood windows from 1984, they are have spring loaded vinyl balances that release the window by pressing to the left providing pressure on the left balance. The right balance is rigid vinyl that does not compress because it is not backed by foam. Will your balance work as replacements?

    I also have an unknown brand from the same year, they have vinyl balances but do not tilt or release. The sash extends past the stops to the wood frame as the old weight and pulley sashes did. Do you sell a balance that can replace these?

    • Posted January 2, 2017 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

      Andy, I am familiar with both of your situations. However, our jambliner product will not work for either of your applications. Sorry we couldn’t help.

  • Posted February 4, 2017 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    I Need or looking to get a price on a jamb liner kit for a double hung tilt to clean casement window in white can some one please help me each window is 32″× 32″ for a total of 32″×64″

  • Justin Corbin
    Posted May 17, 2017 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    will these work on malta windows

  • Don Baumann
    Posted June 26, 2017 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Are you still supporting the replacement vinyl jamb liner products? The link for requesting a quote returned an invalid site code (404 – Not Found). I have Norco brand aluminum clad wood double hung windows with vinyl jamb liners that are 30 years old and the liners are very brittle.
    Don B.

    • Posted June 26, 2017 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

      Oh yeah Don. Its probably your phone number. Seems to be a common issue depending on what browser you’re using. Try entering that with no dashes or spaces.

  • Mike
    Posted July 11, 2017 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    I have some (actually many) early-mid 80s windows by Matthews Brothers that have warped jamb liners. They seem similar to the square version you offer, although perhaps not exactly the same. These are very square without the slight step on the inside.

    The other more worrisome detail is that they appear to be attached by the middle of the liner to a few metal brackets attached to the frame of the window. This does not seem to match your description. (In fact the windows in the garage don’t even have the jamb stop installed and you can see the metal clips behind the jamb liners. )

    I’m assuming I’m out of luck here? Thanks.

    • Posted July 15, 2017 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

      Mike, What you have is actually called a bracket mount jambliner. That type is designed for a retro fit installation. Not sure why that style was used on a new construction window? Could be why I’ve never heard of Matthews Brothers. We can get bracket mount liners. They are a special order for us and not requested very often, why we don’t list them on our website. You can complete the order form as is, and then we our sales staff contacts you, you can request the bracket mount style.

  • David
    Posted July 21, 2017 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Will your vinyl jamb liners fit Wenco windows?

    • Posted July 22, 2017 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

      David, No, if you have the Wenco model I know of. Wenco used an easy-tilt system with sliding sash locks at the top as opposed to the compression type liner we carry.

  • Mario
    Posted August 8, 2017 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Hi. I have older (circa 1991) Malta 7B wood double hung windows. Looks like each sash has a thin cord that is used to control the workings of the sash, and it has broken, as the sashes now “fall” on their own. These windows tilt-in based on pulling the sash against the friction fit of the jamb liner – there is no set tilt pin. However, there is a screw set into each side of the sash, which I’m presuming the cord attached to. I’m wondering if the kit you sell can be used on this type of window? Thanks very much.

    • Posted August 10, 2017 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

      Mario, Not sure what’s going on there? Our jambliner kits usually work on Maltas. If you have vinyl compression type jambliners the cord does not attach to the sash itself. It attaches to the pin terminal. The screw is confusing. You should have a tilt pin. I can’t see it obviously, but I’m thinking the pin broke off and the screw is taking its place??

  • Keith
    Posted January 9, 2018 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    Do you know if your jambliners fit Rivco windows?

    • Posted January 10, 2018 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

      Keith, I believe so, but I can never say with any certainty unless I’ve actually done the install myself. I’m familiar with Rivco windows, but have never worked on them personally. However, I do believe those take the “vee” plough style liner.

  • Lisa
    Posted February 11, 2018 at 3:37 am | Permalink

    I need jamb liners for Crestline Elite Premium from 2016 – would this work? Thanks

    • Posted February 18, 2018 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

      Lisa, I’m sorry, but your windows are too new for our product. Our jambliners are for older models.

  • Gary Gahagan
    Posted March 18, 2018 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Hi. I ordered 2 sets of your jambliners for Malta Windows. I have a set installed, but here’s may problem. With the outside window installed it will not close the whole way because of the metal that is inside the jambliner slot that the pin on the window hits. I’m sure those metal sleeves stay there so how to I fix this?
    Thanks.

    • Posted March 19, 2018 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

      Gary, The only I can think of is the balances, more so the clips, are in backward. Unfortunately its been known to happen, but an easy fix. The outer balance should have the shorter clip holding the metal sleeve flush to the top of the liner. The inner balance should have the longer clip at the top holding the sleeve down about 2 inches. The rubber sash stop should be in this gap. The length of the balance is determined by the height of the liner. Assuming the liner itself fit in the window opening, it should have the correct size balance in it. That’s all I can think of without seeing it. I’ve notified customer service of the issue.

      • Gary Gahagan
        Posted March 19, 2018 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

        Hi Ryan, Forget about this. In today’s mail, the rest of the order came in. The brackets and new pins came and the pins get mounted on the bottom of the sash which would make this all work. Thanks for your help.

        Gary

      • Posted March 19, 2018 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

        Oh awesome Gary! Thank you so much for your business!

  • Andrea Antinarelli
    Posted September 23, 2018 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    We have seventies Rimco wooden tilt out windows – the jamb liners are screwed into the windows rather than fitting into a slot (as indicated in step 5 above – can we still use these if we just screw them in?

    • Posted September 25, 2018 at 11:58 am | Permalink

      Andrea, I’m sorry, I’m not familiar Rimco windows. I couldn’t give you an informed opinion on that. We have 100% success when our products are used for their intended purpose. I wouldn’t recommend an alternate installation method.

  • jeffrey marterer
    Posted May 15, 2019 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    My house was built in 1910 and had its original double hung windows. i cannot replace with vinyl windows because i live in a historic district. the sashes are in pretty good shape because I have maintained them, but the side jambs are in rough shape. i would like to replace them but keep the sashes and trim

    • Posted May 15, 2019 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

      Hi Jeff, So I’m sure exactly what you are looking for? Have your original windows been converted to vinyl jambliners already or you are looking to do that?

      • Jeffrey Marterer
        Posted May 15, 2019 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

        I’m looking to replace the original equipment, remove the weights ans the wood that the sashes travel on now. The wood side jambs are beyond repair

      • Posted May 19, 2019 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

        Jeff, That’s a pretty specialized and complicated project. Our products really are not designed for that type of application. You might want to try an find a local company that specializes in historical restoration for something like that.

  • Pat Quinn-Pickett
    Posted May 17, 2019 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Hi,
    Our 30 year old house has Reuten Klein double hung tilt in windows with spring balances in the jambliner. Can I get similar type balances. Some shoes broke and balances are deformed and jammed un jamb liner. Will your jambliner work in these windows?

    • Posted May 19, 2019 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

      Hello Pat,

      I’m not familiar with that brand at all. I wouldn’t be able to properly recommend a solution.

  • Rick
    Posted May 24, 2019 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    I know they come in standard sizes. Am I able to cut these liners to fit exact as far as the length. I assume that is correct but figured I better ask.
    Thanks
    Rick

    • Posted May 25, 2019 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

      Rick, sure you can cut them to any length you want, although that’s usually not required.

  • Posted June 1, 2019 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    I purchased Pozzi windows in 1988 when I was building my house.. Everything on the windows eventually started to fail ( wood sills, jamb liners, plastic tilt pins, insulated glass ). I need to know if you carry jamb liners for those windows. Double hung tilt-in w/ insulated glass. I would appreciate a quote. Thank you.

    Val Jermacans

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