Jamb liners – Fenster FAQ

The common question we get is, do we have jamb liners for a specific brand of window?  Yes, but not that brand.  What I mean is, most brands double hung windows used a standard profile that is universal across the industry.  Yes, while there may be subtle differences in minor details, the shapes are basically the same.  Here are the only three pieces of information you need to gather:

1.  COLOR.  White or beige.

2.  LENGTH.  Measure from the top of the jamb liners to the long point of the angle at the bottom.  The standard lengths run every 4 inches to the 3/8″ of an inch.  This should be, or close to, the length you have.  We can cut  standard length jamb liners up to an 1″ without affecting the operation. However, you should not get a length over 3/8″ or more than 3″ away from the next standard size.

jambliner tape measure

 

 

 

3.  PLOW SHAPE.  This is the shape of the track on the jamb liners that match up to the groove cut into the side of the sash.

square sash plowsquare plow in linerThe square plow has a “square” shape to the track and a square shape groove cut into the side of the sash as you see here.

 

 

 

Vee sash plowVee sash plow in linerThe “V” plow has a “V” shaped track and the opposite “V” shaped groove on the sash allowing the two shapes to fit together.

 

 

 

We’re working on some short videos to make as many of our products DIY friendly as possible.  In the meantime, here’s a few installation tips.

1.  Vinyl compression jamb liners are held in the jamb pocket via a flange on the edges.  These flanges fit into a groove in a piece of trim called the jamb stop.  There is a jamb stop on the exterior side of the jamb, and one on the interior side.  As long as you are working with a wood, tilt-in double hung window made since the early 80’s, you should have the flange type jamb liners.  There should not be any fasteners to remove.  Pry against the jamb liner in between the edge of the liner and the jamb stop to expose the flange.  Continue to pry along one edge until the jamb liner pops out of the pocket.

2. Install the new jamb liner by setting one edge into the jamb stop and squeeze the liner together to set the flanges in  place.

3. You DO, have to replace the tilt pins that match the balance ends in our kits.  New tilt pins are included along with instructions in the box.

4. I’m assuming you already had the sashes out but….Let’s go back to the beginning.  Vinyl “compression” means the sashes are held in by the liners putting pressure on the sides of the sashes to hold them in.  To “tilt-in” your sashes:

  1. Open the sash to about half-way.
  2. Push out on the jamb liners, away from the edge of the sash and gently pull toward you.
  3. Holding the sash in a horizontal position by the sides, lift one side at an angle in the opening enough to clear the tilt pin from the balance.  You should be able to lift the sash free from the opposite side and remove the sash now.
  4. Reverse to put the sash back in.  Holding the sash at an angle to the opening, seat the lower tilt pin in first.  Push down on the opposite side until both sides are even making the sash level in the opening again.
  5. Tilt the sash back up.  While applying pressure to the jamb liners, push the sash back into the tracks.  You should be able to raise and lower the sash with the tilt pins engaged with the balances.

5.  One more tip.  You don’t want to caulk any part of the jamb liners to the window frame.  It sounds like a good idea to keep water out, but the jamb liner has to be able to expand and contract to operate properly.  Caulking will basically lock it in place and not allow it to seal to the sash.  Oh, and DON’T paint them!

Hope that helps!  Order your jamb liner replacement kit today online at www.fensterUSA.com

 

32 Comments

  • Kellyg
    Posted October 17, 2015 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    I am trying to refurbish a pair of 1990’s era double-hung, single-pane, 6 over 6 wood windows. They have some kind of vinyl jamb liner and I don’t think that they tilt. I can repair the sashes, but I don’t know how to fix the jamb liners. The plow is neither square nor v-shaped, but rather semi-circular. The windows may have been locally manufactured (in eastern Massachusetts), but I assume the jamb-liner was not made locally. Does this sound like anything that you have heard of before? Do you think that you might be able to supply a replacement jamb liner that would work? I am not near the house right now, so I don’t have and exact measurement, but each window is around 32″ wide by about 62″ tall.

    • Posted October 26, 2015 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

      Kelly, Unfortunately this doesn’t sound like anything we can help with.

  • craig bozek
    Posted July 3, 2016 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    do you have a liner that works with sashes for early 1900s? old weight and pulley system

    • Posted July 4, 2016 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

      Craig, Unfortunately the liners we stock will not work for your application.

  • james
    Posted September 3, 2016 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    In Stalled in 1971 wood double hung pella window vinyl lined cased spring loaded behind liner 771/2 at longest point an 77 at lowest so we have 1/2 rise at seal 31/4 on inside of lip 31/2 outside including lip that holds liner in place the tilt bar rides in the track I’m guessing the plow groove the tilt pin is fastend with a screw in the center of window frame that slides up and down the plow grove allowing the window to tilt The liner has a square groove with a rounded top The flat space between the 2 tracks 3/4 of an inch these liners were painted yrs ago you can only imagine that nightmare… spring loaded pully system behind the liner pretty cool thinkin id have to say gonna need a bunch can you handle this there are a few shorter I may need a few other parts as well and I need them yesterday….ty

    • Posted September 3, 2016 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

      James, Unfortunately our jambliners won’t work with a Pella product. Pella is infamous of manufacturing their own proprietary components that don’t interchange with anything else. You’ll have to go straight to Pella for this one, or unfortunately, replace the windows.

  • Posted September 19, 2016 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    My sashes are 1 1/4 inches thick.Will your products work?

    • Posted September 21, 2016 at 1:20 am | Permalink

      Don, As long as you have tilt-in wood windows with a standard “Vee” or “Square” plow, yes, our kit should work.

  • Posted September 21, 2016 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    How can I purchase vinyl jamb liners for 1″ thickness square edge sashes?

  • John naled
    Posted May 31, 2017 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    My name is john, from philly pa area looking to replace balance springs on double hung, sash windows by caradco. Jam liners are in good shape and all springs are attached at the to of the liner as well as to the window. However, windows drop when unlatched. Thinking I need new springs, but not sure.

    • Posted June 3, 2017 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

      John, Our balance kits will work on your Caradco windows, but it sounds like you may have a simple fix. Usually, sashes fall because they are not engaged with the balance. You need to re-seat the sash pins in the terminals. If the terminals are broken, missing, or not connected to the spring balance, then you will have to replace the jambliners.

  • Olga
    Posted September 20, 2017 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Hi Ryan and guys,
    We have V shaped tracks exactly like you have on the picture. Where can we buy one like that? It is 1-1/4 inch sash. We are hunting for it for quite some time already…
    Thank you!
    Olga.

    • Posted September 21, 2017 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

      Olga, we have those for sale on our website, http://www.fensterusa.com.

      • Olga
        Posted September 21, 2017 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

        Thank you so much, Ryan. I can’t find any V-shaped for single hung windows on your website. Can you give me the link? Thank you.

      • Posted September 22, 2017 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

        Oh, You didn’t mention single hung. I’m sorry, ours will not work in your case.

  • Bill F.
    Posted January 10, 2018 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Hello, I am seeking 54” long beige color “V” shape plow jamb liners and weight balance kits for double-hung sash of 1-3/4″ depth. The top and bottom sash each weigh 20 lbs. Do your jamb liners accommodate sash of that depth?

    • Posted January 16, 2018 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

      Bill, if the thickness of the sash stile itself (not the meeting rail) is 1-3/4″ then no. Ours work for 1-1/4 or 1-3/8 sash.

  • Nick
    Posted April 11, 2018 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Hey there, I’m looking to replace a roughly 38″ bathroom window sash. The window are 1960s double hung with a square plow. I think its a 1 3/8″ sash measuring from the plow to the edge of the sash on each end. The old alumuminum sashes were made by Monarch Metalane. There was also a spring channel balance on each side – the channel balance immediately came apart when I took the window out, so I’m not sure how long it has to be. Please help!

    • Posted April 15, 2018 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

      Nick, Thanks for the interest, but that’s probably a bit too old for us. Our stuff only goes back to the late 70’s or so.

  • Nick
    Posted April 16, 2018 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    Thanks Ryan, is there a way I can remedy this situation by scraping together a couple parts, like a channel sash replacement, and pop-in a spring balance as long as it is the same size?

    • Posted April 16, 2018 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

      Possibly. There’s several window hardware companies online. Issue with the age of the windows will be finding available parts.

  • Donna
    Posted May 5, 2018 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Do these jamba work wit Malta double hung windows?

  • Donna
    Posted June 5, 2018 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    I need 4 5’2″ jambs for my Malta windows and 1 6’2″ jamb. Are these all $99? How much is shipping? I can’t find this info. thanks!

    • Posted June 7, 2018 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

      Donna, That’s no problem. You just need to fill out the order form and we’ll get you taken care of.

  • Edwin O flamenco
    Posted June 28, 2018 at 4:46 am | Permalink

    I have a double hung window with broken vinyl jam liners, 45″ tall and 31/8″ wide , can you tell me if you have something I can use to replace those liners?

  • Chris Briley
    Posted June 6, 2019 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    I need to order a jambliner could someone contact me please?

  • David Windham
    Posted October 30, 2019 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    I need 7 sets of jamb liners for double hung wood windows. I dont know the manufacturer name. They were made in the 80s i believe. Liner lenth is 54 inches to the long side. Beige in color square plows. Do these liners come complete with balances and guides? If ao i need a price to quote for a customer. Thanks

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